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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-20 14:13 GMT
by the way rindhoops

i dont know why, but if i got 2 really good strikers with good passing ability i usually have them "switch positions" with each other, and "direct" passing, and through balls often.

i dont know why but the likes of cesar delgado(which u should buy to tottenham), and wayne rooney they get like near to 15-20 assists per season.

works really well for me.

but u gotta be patient as well, for me first half of the season usually is shit, i try to have 1 basic tactic like 4-4-2 or 4-4-2 diamond considering how good players i have for which exact positions. and on those tactics i just keep changing the personal instruction and in the second half of the season i really do well, the squad gets going and all and the results start going the right way.

one tip, if u got a brilliant defensive midfielder and a brilliant attacking midfielder then u should play 4-4-2 diamond, u might concede many goals, but you will score plenty...

when i played with ipswich and when in my first season in the premiership i won the carling cup only but over the course of the season i scored over 100 goals, came 2nd in the league as well. conceded around 1.2 goals per match but still the diamond formation helped me win many matches because i scored so many goals going forward.(i won over liverpool 5-3 as well )

LUHG

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First Team
350 posts
Posted on 2008-01-20 14:27 GMT
Quote:
RedArmy20 :
omg so many tactis.

i got like 2 tactics that i play with, 4-4-2 diamond and 4-4-2


i just need to have perfect "personal instructions"


hehe i know,but i did not have enough midfielders,so i had to do like that.and the other thing is that my defenders are too weak,so arsenal would crush me.i know, i tried.

the thing is,i did not believe that 3-2-2-1-2(Arsenal) and 1-4-1-1-2-1 would work,but they are very good.note that these formation are good for a short time or for some hard games.

4-4-2 is standard of course,and best for most games,but in some games there is a better way to win by playing some variation.3-2-2-1-2- are good because in attack it transforms in 3-4-3,so it is attacking,and about 1-4-1-1-2-1 and some other tactics you can find info at:http://www.fmscout.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=96

look at this
just want to say,these formations are good,because they are defensive,and in attack they are very offensive.

of course instructions is important thing,and very important advice about that is KEEP IT SIMPLE.

Miroslavu ruka podrhtava dok mu zena mirno spava,oj tugo jesenja.


http://www.fmscout.com/t-975-FM-Genie-Scout-2008-Bugs-and-Workarounds.html#975


http://www.piratesassault.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=356000136&ref=flink


http://www.trophymanager.com/index.php?ref=441877

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First Team
350 posts
Posted on 2008-01-20 14:33 GMT
hey RedArmy that "swap position" thing is good.i tried it with my MC's and they are great.

i've just started new season i again(as at every start) i play 4-4-2.

hey Red Army can you post your DM's profile ????

Miroslavu ruka podrhtava dok mu zena mirno spava,oj tugo jesenja.


http://www.fmscout.com/t-975-FM-Genie-Scout-2008-Bugs-and-Workarounds.html#975


http://www.piratesassault.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=356000136&ref=flink


http://www.trophymanager.com/index.php?ref=441877

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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-20 14:42 GMT
to be honest bole, i am too tired to put on fm at the moment but the main things to have for a good DM:

positioning, passing, tackling, work rate, team work, stamina.

and heading if possible(if u really want a good defence that is).

positioning is very very important because he is the one to be filling up at the back, and in that way if u play with a diamond formation and letting ur full backs a bit attacking then ur defensive midfielder has to be set to mentality: "defensive", and normal creative freedom, this with creative freedom might be a bit harsh considering that many midfielders are good passers and usually creative even though defensive, BUT he will be controlling much of the play trust me, and if he gets the freedom he will loose the ball too often.

i had huddlestone as my DM in my ipswich team, he is not the best i know, but it worked really well. otherwise hargreaves is the best with gattuso(the best defensive mids).

i had Eguren(from hammarby) in my first season at ipswich he is a really good defensive midfielder for a lower league team. gets many red and yellow cards though.

by the way i just realized i had BOUGHt Veloso, perfect defensive midfielder for a diamond formation.

LUHG

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First Team
350 posts
Posted on 2008-01-20 15:57 GMT
well i do not play diamond,but maybe i will try it.
by the way i have DM with:
positioning 15
passing 16
tackling 16
work rate 16
teamwork 15
stamina 17

can he do the job ?????????

Miroslavu ruka podrhtava dok mu zena mirno spava,oj tugo jesenja.


http://www.fmscout.com/t-975-FM-Genie-Scout-2008-Bugs-and-Workarounds.html#975


http://www.piratesassault.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=356000136&ref=flink


http://www.trophymanager.com/index.php?ref=441877

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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 01:02 GMT
thats quite so good bole, positioning is quite so important though, would be better if he had 20 , but for me it worked with huddlestone who i think has 16 in positioning.

LUHG

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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 01:08 GMT
here are some of my tactics, you might have to change a bit of the personal instructions.

AND i dont know when i updated these tactics, because i dont save tactics that often, but these might help.

AND if you use my 4-4-2 tactic then u got to see one of the CM has defensive tactics and one attacking.

AND remember if u play with diamond then your AM should have forward runs often, if he is like "Aimar" then have him on free role, run with ball often, through balls often. if he is good on crossing as well then have him cross often as well.

http://www.fmscout.com/datas/users/3765-tactics.rar

LUHG

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First Team
350 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 07:46 GMT
well,right now i do not need any tactics,my is good for now.but thanks anyway i will try it in some cup games

Miroslavu ruka podrhtava dok mu zena mirno spava,oj tugo jesenja.


http://www.fmscout.com/t-975-FM-Genie-Scout-2008-Bugs-and-Workarounds.html#975


http://www.piratesassault.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=356000136&ref=flink


http://www.trophymanager.com/index.php?ref=441877

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First Team
350 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 07:47 GMT
...and the link is not working

Miroslavu ruka podrhtava dok mu zena mirno spava,oj tugo jesenja.


http://www.fmscout.com/t-975-FM-Genie-Scout-2008-Bugs-and-Workarounds.html#975


http://www.piratesassault.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=356000136&ref=flink


http://www.trophymanager.com/index.php?ref=441877

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Youngster
15 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 07:52 GMT
Well, I started a new game, yet again.
I paid attention to every detail from scratch,
especially the tactics, and it paid off.
I won my first 5 games, but...

yet again, on exactly the 6th match the same players that one match previous were beating better teams quite easily,
simply would not play. I expected this as it happens every
game I play in.

I checked they were not tired, I checked they were happy,
morale is very high, they are all in superb condition
and my tactics worked splendidly in my last 5 games without a hitch.

Of course, I know you can`t keep it going long, esp with a young side like Spurs, but it is the manner of the loss, and the following losses against even lesser opposition does not make sense.

As I knew this would happen I saved the game off after my fifth win.
To try and find out what the problem is replayed match 6 with a totally different team and tactics, same result, I wouldn`t mind if they played well and lost, I`d blame my tactics, but the loss is so far out f context it doesn`t make sense.

Looking at the team after the fifth game I can only see two possible reasons for this strange collapse, neither of which I am convined is the problem.

Internationals:
Most of my first team played in Internationals after game 5,
so I replayed game 6 giving the ones that had played a day off training,
or left them out of the team, they still played bad and lost.

The only other change I can see is a lot of injured players coming back into training, key players like King\lennon\Dawson, I would of thought the team that I had been playing would play even better knowing their places were at risk rather than give in?

I am at a total loss as to why this happens every time, the timing is bad as it means going out of the Euro and League cups in the first matches
and the players go into a huff and play terrible for a long time afterwards.

I really hope S.I hasn`t put a routine in that stops you doing well in the first season or something? Surely that would be against the spirit of the game? And would make it pointless to play for me.

Any ideas anyone?

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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 08:29 GMT

LUHG

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Rotation
166 posts
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Posted on 2008-01-21 08:30 GMT
Thats fine

Leedsunited - Dinna mess with 'em

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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 08:32 GMT
alright rindhoops.

do u have the version 8.0.0? because i havent updated, and i will in a min or two start a game with tottenham. i wont cheat or anything.

i might buy 1-2 players, but i will play around 8-10 matches, and i will come back to you.

LUHG

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Youngster
15 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 10:12 GMT
I have 8.01

In current game I have bought Garay SW\DC 7.5m min rel
and sotros Ninis 1.5m that`s all.

I haven`t cheated in any way.

thanks, will be interesting to see what happens.



Quote:
RedArmy20 :
alright rindhoops.

do u have the version 8.0.0? because i havent updated, and i will in a min or two start a game with tottenham. i wont cheat or anything.

i might buy 1-2 players, but i will play around 8-10 matches, and i will come back to you.

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First Team
298 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 11:51 GMT
I seem to get exactly the opposite, I don't seem to get a point out of any of the 1st 4 league games then end up going on a 10 match unbeaten streak.

His Armband Proved he was a red, Torres Torres
You'll never walk alone it said, Torres Torres
We got the lad from sunny spain
He gets the ball and scores again.
Fernando Torres, Liverpool's Number Nine

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Youngster
15 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 13:42 GMT
Quote:
Nuno10 :
I seem to get exactly the opposite, I don't seem to get a point out of any of the 1st 4 league games then end up going on a 10 match unbeaten streak.


Seems like something switches in around that 5th game! Weird.

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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 13:51 GMT
alright matey.

i have played 4 games so far(will continue later on)

1st game: Lost away to Blackburn 3-0

2nd game: Won at home vs Sunderland 3-1

3rd game: Draw away at Pompey 2-2

4th game: Draw at home vs Chelsea 4-4(BRILLIANT COMEBACK) http://www.fmscout.com/datas/users/3765-imthebest.jpg

brilliant comeback, im a genius! brought on bent around 60th minute.

i have signed the following: S.Downing, Coloccini, Srna, Bentley(after the chelsea game), Van Der Vaart.

i have 7 injuries(including berbatov long term) so i think i have done really well so far.

i havent cheated just did "budget adjustment" to get more money and signed those players.

LUHG

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First Team
312 posts
Posted on 2008-01-21 20:39 GMT
Rindhoops, try a different team, do everything the same. See what happens.

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Legend
1609 posts
Posted on 2008-01-22 03:33 GMT
alrite Rindhoops your game is cursed, or you just suck

my 9 first games with spurs:

1. vs Blackbrun Away Lost 3-0

2. vs Sunderland Home Won 3-1

3. vs Pompey Away Draw 2-2

4. vs Chelsea Home Draw 4-4

5. vs Birmingham Away Won 0-1

6. vs Wigan Home Won 3-1

7. vs FC Midtylland Home Draw 1-1

8. vs West Ham Home Win 4-0

9. vs Derby Away Win 4-0


darren bent has 4 from start 3 as sub...11 goals! fucking amazing.

i got 3 different tactics, where i always change the "personal instructions" depending on which players i choose.

now i got a nearly full fit squad and i have a big squad to fight in all competitions.



do you want my tactics?

or do you just want to play with another team?

This post was edited by RedArmy20 (2008-01-22 04:21 GMT, 306 days ago)

LUHG

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First Team
217 posts
Posted on 2008-01-22 03:45 GMT
wash your face Red.. it's getting smugger..

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